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no, it's worse -- look, our taxes are about to go up. not the taxes on our dividends though, right? that's a big part of our retirement. oh, no, it's dividends, too. the rate on our dividends would more than double. but we depend on our dividends to help pay our bills. we worked hard to save. well, the president and congress have got to work together to stop this dividend tax hike. before it's too late. with his wife, danielle, almost every weekend. derrell hasn't been able to visit his mom back east in a long time. [ shirley ] things are sometimes a little tight around the house. i wasn't able to go to the wedding. [ emily jo ] since derrell couldn't get home, we decided to bring home to him and then just gave him a little bit of help finding his way. ♪ [ laughs ] [ applause ] i love you. i love you, too. well, having a ton of locations doesn't hurt. and a santa to boot! [ chuckles ] right, baby. oh, sir. that is a customer. oh...sorry about that. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. fedex office. >>> if you're a family in debt, you don't keep spending. >> it shouldn
no, it's worse -- look, our taxes are about to go up. not the taxes on our dividends though, right? that's a big part of our retirement. oh, no, it's dividends, too. the rate on our dividends would more than double. but we depend on our dividends to help pay our bills. we worked hard to save. well, the president and congress have got to work together to stop this dividend tax hike. before it's too late. with his wife, danielle, almost every weekend. derrell hasn't been able to visit his mom...
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well, we know that the bush tax cuts are expiring. they'll expire for everyone, not just the top 2%. this is not something we want the american middle class to get hit with a tax increase at this time, but we do believe the wealthiest among us should pay more. and we think that the top 2% should pay a higher tax rate on the money they make after $250,000 a year. we also believe that there's more that can be done, closing loopholes. people say, let's talk about that. . we see the bush era tax cuts expiring for everybody. we see the production tax credit expiring which is something important for work in the wind industry and the area of industry that promotes environmental matters. we also see the expiration of things like the estate tax, the s.g.r., which is the doctors fix for medicare. and we also see the sequestration which is the outcome, time outcome of the budget control act that we passed in august, 2011, which is now coming due, and there will be equal defense and discretionary spending cuts on both sides which will be -- which
well, we know that the bush tax cuts are expiring. they'll expire for everyone, not just the top 2%. this is not something we want the american middle class to get hit with a tax increase at this time, but we do believe the wealthiest among us should pay more. and we think that the top 2% should pay a higher tax rate on the money they make after $250,000 a year. we also believe that there's more that can be done, closing loopholes. people say, let's talk about that. . we see the bush era tax...
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additional tax is one of the many results of the -- marriage act in congress. domestic partners are denied federal protection offered to other couples such as immigrant rights, social security survival benefits and ability to file joint tax returns. this additional tax on same sex domestic partners adds another sting to doma. these next few weeks will be significant forjíÑ the lgbt community and those who stand with them as the supreme court will decide whether to -- proposition 8 perry case and various doma cases however i don't believe we should stand still while this discrimination continues. i look forward to working with everyone on the board to the rest i submit. >> clerk calvillo: thank you. supervisor chu. >> supervisor chu: thank you very much. i have an empirrative item later on and i want to speak to it. it is a purely commendatory item. i am joined by supervisor elsbernd in sponsoring this. i simply want to recognize the grand reopening of the sunset rec center in my district located in the the heart of the sunset district and is actually our own
additional tax is one of the many results of the -- marriage act in congress. domestic partners are denied federal protection offered to other couples such as immigrant rights, social security survival benefits and ability to file joint tax returns. this additional tax on same sex domestic partners adds another sting to doma. these next few weeks will be significant forjíÑ the lgbt community and those who stand with them as the supreme court will decide whether to -- proposition 8 perry case...
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moreover, as part of the middle-class tax relief act of 2012, congress expanded the scope of funding from the relocation fund to include the costs of planning for relocation. i am confident that the pentagon and the larger federal government can more efficiently manage its spectrum holdings and make available additional spectrum to create jobs. i hope we can work this out and have it included as part of the defense authorization bill. i certainly believe it's an amendment that's important with regard to the issue that i mentioned and that is the reallocation, relocation of spectrum in this country to allow for multiple uses, obviously important private and commercial uses out there and enormous demand, that demand is is adding significantly to our economy and creating jobs for literally thousands and millions of americans. madam president, with that i yield the floor. the presiding officer: the clerk will call the roll. the presiding officer: the clerk will call the roll. quorum call: the presiding officer: the senator from michigan. mr. levin: i ask further proceedings on the quorum
moreover, as part of the middle-class tax relief act of 2012, congress expanded the scope of funding from the relocation fund to include the costs of planning for relocation. i am confident that the pentagon and the larger federal government can more efficiently manage its spectrum holdings and make available additional spectrum to create jobs. i hope we can work this out and have it included as part of the defense authorization bill. i certainly believe it's an amendment that's important with...
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paying more taxes. that will go up in january. cheryl: it will be interesting. protesters in each of force the u.s. embassy in cairo to shut down. up-to-the-minute coverage ahead. dennis: it is illegal to smoke pot in two western states, but we will tell you why employers can still fire you for doing it. cheryl: that makes sense, right? would you pay more for vitamin c in showers or aromatherapy? we will talk to the man behind the stay well hotel concept. dennis: as we do every day this time, here is looking at her, why that the cme with that. [ male announcer ] where do you turn for legal matters? at legalzoom, we've created a better place to handle your legal needs. maybe you have questions about incorporating a business you'd like to start. or questions about protecting your family with a will or living trust. and you'd like to find e right attorney to help guide you along, answer any questions and offer advice. with an "a" rating from the better business bureau legalzoom hel you get personalized and
paying more taxes. that will go up in january. cheryl: it will be interesting. protesters in each of force the u.s. embassy in cairo to shut down. up-to-the-minute coverage ahead. dennis: it is illegal to smoke pot in two western states, but we will tell you why employers can still fire you for doing it. cheryl: that makes sense, right? would you pay more for vitamin c in showers or aromatherapy? we will talk to the man behind the stay well hotel concept. dennis: as we do every day this time,...
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increase.complicity and tax rate theyease. sted.hey're not interested. >> you're not going to grow the ou raiseif you raise tax rates on the top two rates. smalll hurt small businesses. econill hurt our economy. approach.y this is not the right r: toach. anythis impasse is one of many geithnerreasury secretary tim geithner, mr. obama's lead with t negotiator, will have meetings e bowlesth top congressional thisrs. othpson bowles met with all the ue.yers at both ends of 'mnnsylvania avenue. >> i'm not more optimistic or less optimistic. puthopeful but don't put me e nearnywhere near the optimistic category. tove got a long way to go and a likefew days to get it done. >> lindsey graham from south carolina have offered to break a revenueax increase pledge and ntise revenue as part of a deal but graham now is pulling back until the president offers ntitlement reform. a i've not seen one deal from country downouse that deal with medicare, medicaid and social security which are all going to fail and take this country down the road o
increase.complicity and tax rate theyease. sted.hey're not interested. >> you're not going to grow the ou raiseif you raise tax rates on the top two rates. smalll hurt small businesses. econill hurt our economy. approach.y this is not the right r: toach. anythis impasse is one of many geithnerreasury secretary tim geithner, mr. obama's lead with t negotiator, will have meetings e bowlesth top congressional thisrs. othpson bowles met with all the ue.yers at both ends of 'mnnsylvania...
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host: when you say tax provisions, increased taxes? guest: yes. some of the tax increases on higher income people. there's a new tax on -- new tax limitations on people with high incomes that go into effect in 2013. sort of in anticipation of 2014. to bank some of the money, if you will, that will pay for some of the things like these subsidies people will be getting when they go to these exchanges that start in 2014. host: republicans in congress, are they still pushing for a repeal or altering the a.c.a.? >> repeal, not so much. i think we saw right after the election, saw a number of republicans who were acknowledging, yes, it was, if you will, a referendum on the a.c.a. it is here to stay. it is the law of the land. probably not so many out and out repeal votes. that doesn't mean there still won't be efforts to change it. as i mentioned i think you'll see some of those in these -- fiscal cliff talks that you might see. there's a lot of elements to this law that are controversial. >> today's "washington journal," available any time in our video
host: when you say tax provisions, increased taxes? guest: yes. some of the tax increases on higher income people. there's a new tax on -- new tax limitations on people with high incomes that go into effect in 2013. sort of in anticipation of 2014. to bank some of the money, if you will, that will pay for some of the things like these subsidies people will be getting when they go to these exchanges that start in 2014. host: republicans in congress, are they still pushing for a repeal or...
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they want republicans to take higher taxes, republicans saying if we give you more taxes you have to give the gop deep budget cuts and titlement reforms, each side not interested so far. >> i know you just ran into paul ryan who is romney's running mate there on capitol hill. what did he tell you about the lunch between romney and the president? >> reporter: i was just running down stairs to grab something to drink and i -- the basement and there alone talking to a reporter was paul ryan back to being a regular congressman. he will meet with romney later this afternoon an romney has lunch at the white house with the president. i overheard ryan as i went by and stopped listened for a southern california say he is a friend of mine, good to see him but talk about a big change. a month ago jetting all over the country, now just another congressman. >> it would be safe to assume that at lunch there will be a discussion about the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: i would think but i don't know what to think about what's going on. have you to believe first it's one of the most awkward meetings, th
they want republicans to take higher taxes, republicans saying if we give you more taxes you have to give the gop deep budget cuts and titlement reforms, each side not interested so far. >> i know you just ran into paul ryan who is romney's running mate there on capitol hill. what did he tell you about the lunch between romney and the president? >> reporter: i was just running down stairs to grab something to drink and i -- the basement and there alone talking to a reporter was paul...
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he's not a tax guy. he's never really worked in this sphere. >> geithner is leading these talks for two reasons. he and the president are very close. they simply click. secondly, boehner likes him. that's why geithner is the front man here. that sometimes matter more than anything else. on wednesday, the president brought back a campaign atmosphere. he surrounded himself with what he called average middle class families. it was all about ramping up political pressure on the republicans. >> if congress does nothing, every family in america will see their taxes automatically go up at the beginning of next year. >> the president had a busy fiscal cliff day, also met privately with the ceo ofs of home depot, coca-cola and yahoo!. not to be out done on this pr front, house republicans made it public, hosting a group of nervous business leaders. they've signed on to a campaign called fix the debt. they want big spending cuts to supplement the coming tax hikes. >> i'm hopeful but i wouldn't put me anywhere near
he's not a tax guy. he's never really worked in this sphere. >> geithner is leading these talks for two reasons. he and the president are very close. they simply click. secondly, boehner likes him. that's why geithner is the front man here. that sometimes matter more than anything else. on wednesday, the president brought back a campaign atmosphere. he surrounded himself with what he called average middle class families. it was all about ramping up political pressure on the republicans....
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the taxes are this. 35% will go to federal taxes. 4.54% will go to arizona taxes, that is much better than california. and 6% will go to missouri taxes. interesting too a couple other notes for you. one this isn't the largest lottery in u.s. history actually earlier this year the megamillions game was $656 million. three people bought tickets that won that, that was earlier this year, and the largest in the history of the world, believe it or not was back in spain in 2011. $939million somebody won over there. martha. martha: wow, well, you know we'd lick to her a good story. if you have a good story about winning the lottery and everything turning out really well, let us know. >> reporter: i would have shared. i would have shared. martha: thank you, adam. we'll see you soon. bill: thank you, adam. if you're watching us right now you probably didn't win. you'd be out answering the phone or having a good party. martha: first thing i would do is watch "america's newsroom" if i won. bill: okay that's it. the odds of winning, space junk falling to earth and hitting one person, one in 3200.
the taxes are this. 35% will go to federal taxes. 4.54% will go to arizona taxes, that is much better than california. and 6% will go to missouri taxes. interesting too a couple other notes for you. one this isn't the largest lottery in u.s. history actually earlier this year the megamillions game was $656 million. three people bought tickets that won that, that was earlier this year, and the largest in the history of the world, believe it or not was back in spain in 2011. $939million somebody...
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he is due to meet to talk about how to avoid a series of tax heights and series of cuts due to begin in january. president barack obama said he will do whatever it takes to get this done and also today, president barack obama will have lunch at the white house with mitt romney, his former rival. during his election speech he said he would reach out to mitt romney and he is doing it. the white house has no specific ideas but they are looking forward to making the government work more efficiently. >>> there is an accident in the east bay, a big-rig slammed into three parked cars and has spilled diesel. it slammed into these cars here and the fire department is trying to mop up the diesel fuel spill. this is right between san leandro and cost trough valley. and it is off of 162nd avenue and you can see that it has created quite a mess there, so the crews will be there for quite some time trying to contain this. it did happen almost an hour ago so they have been on the scene almost an hour ago. you can see traffic is flowing nicely in both directions and in san francisco, we have a look
he is due to meet to talk about how to avoid a series of tax heights and series of cuts due to begin in january. president barack obama said he will do whatever it takes to get this done and also today, president barack obama will have lunch at the white house with mitt romney, his former rival. during his election speech he said he would reach out to mitt romney and he is doing it. the white house has no specific ideas but they are looking forward to making the government work more...
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then personal income taxes. then taxes on consumption, and taxes on property. most of these find that taxes on consumption -- the closest thing we have on the federal level is the payroll tax -- would have no direct tax on consumption like every other country in the oecd. that is a consumption tax. many economists and they oecd find that those taxes have no relationship with economic growth. it is the taxes it -- it is not the taxes on consumption that hard economic growth. host: this is part of a continuing series on "washington journal" focusing on a fiscal cliff. our conversation has broadened. to bring it back to the payroll tax cut and remind you it was enacted in december of 2010, designed to temporarily boost the economy and reduce the tax to% from 6.2% to 4.2% and increased take-home pay about an average of $1,000 to $1,800 per worker. it expires at the end of the year, rates will revert back to 6.2%. if you make $35,000 or so, that will be an extra $700 in taxes. the $2,000, an extra thousand dollars. 75,000, $1,500. finally, $110,000, the upper limit
then personal income taxes. then taxes on consumption, and taxes on property. most of these find that taxes on consumption -- the closest thing we have on the federal level is the payroll tax -- would have no direct tax on consumption like every other country in the oecd. that is a consumption tax. many economists and they oecd find that those taxes have no relationship with economic growth. it is the taxes it -- it is not the taxes on consumption that hard economic growth. host: this is part...
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tax cut by reenacting the current tax rates for 98% of americans. that kind of logic only makes sense in washington. in my view, we ought to come to some responsible bipartisan broad agreement now and save all of the chaos and save all of the press coverage of the next five weeks. but we may well not get there. it is better for us to go over the cliff than for the democrats to again agree to a deal in which entitlements get slashed and vital supports for low income seniors, for the disabled, for children who are vulnerable in medicaid get taken away. so that's the bigger dynamic. >> bill: amen to that. i'm going to ask you for 30 seconds, we're right up against the clock. you mentioned this word so i have to ask you. will we get filibuster reform? >> i'm optimistic. we've had some very serious conversations in caucus about it. leader reid has fundamentally changed his view from two years ago when we discussed it before. the proposals that the democrats have put on the table for rules reform are modest and responsible. it is essentially this. if you'
tax cut by reenacting the current tax rates for 98% of americans. that kind of logic only makes sense in washington. in my view, we ought to come to some responsible bipartisan broad agreement now and save all of the chaos and save all of the press coverage of the next five weeks. but we may well not get there. it is better for us to go over the cliff than for the democrats to again agree to a deal in which entitlements get slashed and vital supports for low income seniors, for the disabled,...
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like the earned income tax credit. and you were talking about not only a lot of retirees, you're talking about the entire enlisted corp, the united states military and it was an awful statement. and i think he paid a tremendous price for it. it just as you conceive of a presidential campaign you don't want to push people out in a way. it's not a zero sum game where in order to get 50 plus 1 we're going to stigmatize 47%. politics is a game of addition. this is what david and the obama campaign understood so brilliantly is how do we assemble a coalition of voters to get a majority of the vote? and i do think if you look at that coalition that's been assembled i suspect it will be enduring for some time in the way the reagan coalition was and the obama coalition will be. but it was a bad moment for the romney campaign in this election. >> david mentioned in his opening remarks 47%. it was co-incidentle i think that president obama last 47% and you said that the 47% mr. romney was refering to was republicans. that was coi
like the earned income tax credit. and you were talking about not only a lot of retirees, you're talking about the entire enlisted corp, the united states military and it was an awful statement. and i think he paid a tremendous price for it. it just as you conceive of a presidential campaign you don't want to push people out in a way. it's not a zero sum game where in order to get 50 plus 1 we're going to stigmatize 47%. politics is a game of addition. this is what david and the obama campaign...
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they like taxes? >> it's a pledge not to increase taxes. people say why don't you toughen it. you don't want to change it because it is a simple guardrail. it doesn't solve the world's problems, it says no net tax increase. >> in your mind when someone signs it, how long are they committed to it? >> in writing when the person signs it as long as you are a congressman or senator. >> you are signing this for life? >> unless you intend to be a congressman for all of your life. >> a career decision. >> if someone tells you they are pro-life or pro-choice, is this 18 months or a year? how long are you pro-choice? you are telling someone who you are. i'm the kind of guy who is pro- choice or pro-life. two people have brought that up. latourette who decided to leave congress he said yeah i made that promise a long time ago and i went into district and talked about banks and mortgage. mortgage, that was 20 years ago. you are still sending me letters. people make a commitment. it's an easy simple commitment an
they like taxes? >> it's a pledge not to increase taxes. people say why don't you toughen it. you don't want to change it because it is a simple guardrail. it doesn't solve the world's problems, it says no net tax increase. >> in your mind when someone signs it, how long are they committed to it? >> in writing when the person signs it as long as you are a congressman or senator. >> you are signing this for life? >> unless you intend to be a congressman for all of...
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they are the low-tax party. the other guys want to tax. to match reckless spending. i understand why democrats are doing this. they manual that the republicans have no bargaining power today. i say it's true if republicans resist, they will take the blame. that will help the democrats in the congress. but obama is never running again. he doesn't care who gets the blame. he is going to be the president. she a lame duck. he wants the term. if it starts by going over the cliff it starts with a second recession. 2 million unemployed and wrecked second term. that is the leverage that republicans have over obama. it's utterly unacceptable. >> bret: to kirsten's point, some republicans are talking about raising the age of medicare, means testing. put a lot of ideas out there. nothing on paper. they are not hammering it out, it doesn't seem, behind closed doors unless we don't know it's going on, steve. >> no, it's not. >> bret: let me play this thing, this sound bite. yesterday we put in a piece. i want to play more of it. this is a question and answer by senator reid about
they are the low-tax party. the other guys want to tax. to match reckless spending. i understand why democrats are doing this. they manual that the republicans have no bargaining power today. i say it's true if republicans resist, they will take the blame. that will help the democrats in the congress. but obama is never running again. he doesn't care who gets the blame. he is going to be the president. she a lame duck. he wants the term. if it starts by going over the cliff it starts with a...
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one is the concern of barry sudden drops in government expenditure and taxes on january 1 i could have a significant negative shock to the american and global economy. the other is the need for the united states to have a credible fiscal plan over the midterm to deal with what i think is a pretty serious long run fiscal situation. those issues often get mixed together. i would repeat what our finance minister said recently. i do think there solutions to the january 1 situation and a lot of common ground. i would think people would come to those solutions and not wait for a crisis. i hear some people talking about a budget accord. that kind of talk as lister you cannot, you go over a cliff, you cannot be sure what will happen next. with the collapse of lehman brothers, how icing major event can trigger a series of the event. i have every reason to believe these people will come to some kind of agreement on what to do. i also remain, notwithstanding all the difficulties the unit the -- the u.s. economy faces. i do not want to minimize them. this is still at its heart the most entrepreneu
one is the concern of barry sudden drops in government expenditure and taxes on january 1 i could have a significant negative shock to the american and global economy. the other is the need for the united states to have a credible fiscal plan over the midterm to deal with what i think is a pretty serious long run fiscal situation. those issues often get mixed together. i would repeat what our finance minister said recently. i do think there solutions to the january 1 situation and a lot of...
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their fair share of taxes. we're losing $100 billion a year because corporations and the wealthy are stark their money in the cayman -- are stashing their money in the cayman islands and other havens. defense spending tripled since 1997. we're now spending almost as much as the rest of the world combined. let's take a serious look at defense spending. madam president, you do that, and you make some efficiencies in medicare and medicaid. make them more efficient. not cut benefits. you can move towards serious deficit reduction without cutting social security, without cutting medicare, without cutting medicaid. we just had an election a few years ago -- a few weeks ago. november 6. and what the american people, ii think, said is the time is now for the wealthy to start paying their fair share of taxes. we have seen poll after poll after poll including from some very conservative people who are saying do not cut social security, medicare and medicaid. i think it is time for the united states senate and the congres
their fair share of taxes. we're losing $100 billion a year because corporations and the wealthy are stark their money in the cayman -- are stashing their money in the cayman islands and other havens. defense spending tripled since 1997. we're now spending almost as much as the rest of the world combined. let's take a serious look at defense spending. madam president, you do that, and you make some efficiencies in medicare and medicaid. make them more efficient. not cut benefits. you can move...
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so it's not like folks who make more than 250 aren't getting a tax break too, they are getting a tax break on the first 250 just like everybody else. families and small businesses would therefore be able to enjoy some piece of mind heading into christmas and heading into the new year. and it would give us more time than next year to work together on a comprehensive plan to bring down our deficits, to streamline our tax system, to do it in a balanced way, including asking the wealthist americans to pay a little more so we can still invest in things like education, and training and science and research research. i know some of this may sound familiar to you because we talked a lot about this during campaign. this shouldn't be a surprise to anybody. this was a major debate in the presidential campaign and in congressional campaigns all across the country, and a clear majority of americans, not just democrats, but also a lot of republicans and a lot of independents agreed we should have a balanced approach to deficit reduction that doesn't hurt the economy and doesn't hurt middle class f
so it's not like folks who make more than 250 aren't getting a tax break too, they are getting a tax break on the first 250 just like everybody else. families and small businesses would therefore be able to enjoy some piece of mind heading into christmas and heading into the new year. and it would give us more time than next year to work together on a comprehensive plan to bring down our deficits, to streamline our tax system, to do it in a balanced way, including asking the wealthist americans...
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no, it's worse -- look, our taxes are about to go up. not the taxes on our dividends though, right? that's a big part of our retirement. oh, no, it's dividends, too. the rate on our dividends would more than double. but we depend on our dividends to help pay our bills. we worked hard to save. well, the president and congress have got to work together to stop this dividend tax hike. before it's too late. >>> i am so psyched about this. the long-awaited prequel to "the lord of the rings" trilogy premie premiered in new zealand today. here is a preview of what people saw. >> promise that i won't ever come back. >> no. and if you do, you will not be the same. >> awesome. the capital of new zealand was transformed into middle earth. take a look at the giant sculpture of gollam at the airport in wellington. that's just the beginning of the hype and fanfare over this movie. a.j. hammer is in new york. i love that gollum in the airport. >> new zealand has gone crazy for "the hobbit." tens of thousands of kiwis were on hand. they're all celebrating the hometown premiere in wellington, new ze
no, it's worse -- look, our taxes are about to go up. not the taxes on our dividends though, right? that's a big part of our retirement. oh, no, it's dividends, too. the rate on our dividends would more than double. but we depend on our dividends to help pay our bills. we worked hard to save. well, the president and congress have got to work together to stop this dividend tax hike. before it's too late. >>> i am so psyched about this. the long-awaited prequel to "the lord of the...
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in taxes. martha: concerns over america's fiscal cliff have sent the markets lower in premarket trading. there is a look at where the dow is poised to open this morning. with the dow, the s & p and the nasdaq all trading lower. speaking of that, a new round of violent protests break out in egypt as police fired teargas into the crowds. here are some of those scenes. >> unbelievable. more than 100,000 people flooded into downtown cairo. this time they are protesting the current president martha maccallum and his power grab. they are disillusioned with what he has brought to their country. then you have this happening. police firing teargas. gypt's highest courts refusing to work in protest of morsi's actions. steve harrigan is streaming live from cairo. the protests looked like the unrest we saw in that same square back in 2009 and the arab spring and the overthrow of mubarak. how dangerous is it? is it more dangerous now? >> this certainly allows similarities between what we saw last night and
in taxes. martha: concerns over america's fiscal cliff have sent the markets lower in premarket trading. there is a look at where the dow is poised to open this morning. with the dow, the s & p and the nasdaq all trading lower. speaking of that, a new round of violent protests break out in egypt as police fired teargas into the crowds. here are some of those scenes. >> unbelievable. more than 100,000 people flooded into downtown cairo. this time they are protesting the current...
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and not a taxing problem. we've got to make significant changes in these programs to make our federal entitlements sustainable and in line with the day's demographics. and we need democrats to join us in that effort. just to put a fine point on all that, madam president, i want to just mention what the, again, the nonpartisan congressional budget office's report which was issued on november 12 of this year, just a couple of weeks ago said -- and i quote -- "with the population aging and health care costs per person likely to keep growing faster than the economy, the united states cannot sustain the federal spending programs that are now in place." that's from the congressional budget office. the president's own fiscal commission, the simpson-bowles commission noted in its official report, and i quote again, "federal health care spending represents our single largest fiscal challenge over the long run." earlier this month "the washington post" in its editorial board said, and i quote again, "entitlement reform
and not a taxing problem. we've got to make significant changes in these programs to make our federal entitlements sustainable and in line with the day's demographics. and we need democrats to join us in that effort. just to put a fine point on all that, madam president, i want to just mention what the, again, the nonpartisan congressional budget office's report which was issued on november 12 of this year, just a couple of weeks ago said -- and i quote -- "with the population aging and...
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tax. if we want to look for more revenue, we would start their of the things that are not taxed at all and try to bring more revenue that way first. host: why do we have tax rates? where do they come from? what is the history? guest: why do we have tax rates? host: the varying tax rates, 10%, 6%, up to 39.6%, or whatever. guest: in 2001, the rate started at 15% and went up to about 40%. we have a long history of having -- having a progressive income tax system. there is a bipartisan interest in the wealthier paying a higher share of their income. that is a system we have had since income taxes were put in place. in order to get the type of progress city that we have in place today, it can only be achieved with a progressive rate structure. in the 1990's, more radical tax reform ideas were passed of moving from an income tax to a consumption tax. and there was a popular movement to promote a flat tax. it would also have been progress of because we would not have taxed the first $20,000 wort
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suddenly they love these tax cuts. we can't live without these tax cuts! however, republicans are now saying let's go ahead and let all of them expire. now the republicans don't love the bush tax cuts and the democrats do love them. it's totally switched. >> that is true. >> and you know what? i would never think that i would agree with this. he makes a really interesting case. that the united states by far has the most progressive tax system of any advanced country but it's not enough to help narrow income inequality because our overall tax revenue is too low and the middle class is the only people that can come and generate enough revenue to really help the people that are in need. >> which you probably have to do that, but you have to raise rates on the richest or at least find a way to bring their tax rates higher. i don't even understand w we're having this argument about marginal rates. it's stupid. >> you can't go high enough. where is your cutoff? if it's not at 100,000 -- if it's at 250, it's already too high to raise any serious money. >> they're
suddenly they love these tax cuts. we can't live without these tax cuts! however, republicans are now saying let's go ahead and let all of them expire. now the republicans don't love the bush tax cuts and the democrats do love them. it's totally switched. >> that is true. >> and you know what? i would never think that i would agree with this. he makes a really interesting case. that the united states by far has the most progressive tax system of any advanced country but it's not...
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friendly tax structure. ue ktah and iowa round occupy t top 5. california takes the top spot of worst run state for second year in a row now. they match debt rates and unemployment rates for that fall. california has one of th income tax burdens and according to the tax foundation it's the third worst business tax climate in the country. on the upside the report says the state is making progress with getting finances back on track. read island, arizona and new jersey round out the top worst run states. >>> good information there, diane. >>> thank you so much. 15 minutes before the hour. that's the rundown. if your mom is nagging you about getting married we determine if that mom of yours is normal or nuts. sometimes it is easy to spot a liar. >> it is a bit extreme. >> that's the thing nowadays. >> he said he would accent my facial features. >> it does. it accents your facial features. >> they say practice makes perfect especially when it comes to telling tall tales. speaking of that let's check in with bria
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we move forward. >> releasing videos from middle-class supporters, showing them pleading for their tax cuts to be extended. >> if you take away the $2,200 from the paycheck it will impact my family. >> reporter: while those for wealthier americans are allowed to expire. >> we will not solve it by creating villains. and drumming up outrage. >> reporter: republicans slammed for the president for outsourcing negotiations to treasury secretary tim geithner and members of his administration. >> rather than sitting down with lawmakers of both parties and working out an agreement he is back on the campaign trail. presumably with the same old talking points we are quite familiar with. >> reporter: jake tapper, abc news, new york. >> interesting. but i think what you see, too, the president gave an interview several months ago what was the one mistake in your first term. his response, i didn't tell the american people the story. i didn't involve, put a human face enough on the problem. so i think what he is trying to do here. saw with the folks, the press conference a few weeks ago, people line
we move forward. >> releasing videos from middle-class supporters, showing them pleading for their tax cuts to be extended. >> if you take away the $2,200 from the paycheck it will impact my family. >> reporter: while those for wealthier americans are allowed to expire. >> we will not solve it by creating villains. and drumming up outrage. >> reporter: republicans slammed for the president for outsourcing negotiations to treasury secretary tim geithner and members...
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as much as 40% no one wants to seem to pay taxes and legislate taxes, so that is. if somebody wants something they can purchase it or say to the federal ground and both we will get richer so it is an interesting parallel petraeus pnac there is a difference between alcohol and marijuana. one has a certain cultural tradition that transcends a generation. marijuana perhaps not the same edition. what lessons can you draw? >> kuran absolutely right. it was an integral part of some one of the center for of millennia before prohibition. there are indigenous people in this country but it was not as antonette in the life and society also it was today than 50 years ago and there's a generational issue wow were people who grew up with the presence of marijuana whether the appreciated it or not was back in the 1950's. >> what's interesting about the drug law today is the seems to be released the criminal components leading some civil penalties in place maybe even giving away with those as well if the local level we still have the federal law would marijuana means a schedule on
as much as 40% no one wants to seem to pay taxes and legislate taxes, so that is. if somebody wants something they can purchase it or say to the federal ground and both we will get richer so it is an interesting parallel petraeus pnac there is a difference between alcohol and marijuana. one has a certain cultural tradition that transcends a generation. marijuana perhaps not the same edition. what lessons can you draw? >> kuran absolutely right. it was an integral part of some one of the...
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we can talk about regulation and pension and taxes and the government. a lot of that is [inaudible] a survey said housing prices are too high and that is a negative factor on recruitment. i thought, maybe we can bring the prices down. foreclosure works magic. i do not think you want that. you want rising wealth which could translate into a rising houses -- housing prices. you can increase density and breakdown similar rules, you get more people. there's a lot of things. as i drove down here from oakland cut -- oakland, i saw those cars in the ordinary lanes. one person per car. you have this one person with all this steel and plastic and oil. it is ridiculous. we're figuring out ways to do that. whether it is high speed rail or electric cars. the first will be rolling off the factory in treatments in the next few months -- in three months and in the next few months. yes, the innovative companies are small. the electric cars -- the tanks are small but so is fairchild or in tal or hewlett-packard -- intel or hewlett-packard or steve jobs. the seats we plan
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the idea was to cut taxes to raise revenue to going fund the great society programs. he went to the senate, which was oppose to the ultimately goal of, you know, significance civil rights legislation and convinced the dean of the senate, who was the budget chairman that he would commitment to a budget that was year to year a decrees. not like now where it's a decrease off the growth. they use a weird account thing in washington. a dollar for dollar reduction in the budget the first time, i think, in fifty years or that took place and he got that done. it required working, sending a limo secretly to the senate to bring the senator to, bird, i believe it was to the white house to come in and to be courted in effect and held up high and, you know, be beloved by the junior president of the united states, his junior when they were in the senate together and he got the most significant civil rights legislation passed in american history. all in six weeks. all because of leadership. all because he if not let go. it it required grabbing people by the shoulder and not letting
the idea was to cut taxes to raise revenue to going fund the great society programs. he went to the senate, which was oppose to the ultimately goal of, you know, significance civil rights legislation and convinced the dean of the senate, who was the budget chairman that he would commitment to a budget that was year to year a decrees. not like now where it's a decrease off the growth. they use a weird account thing in washington. a dollar for dollar reduction in the budget the first time, i...
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we said to the voters we will keep taxes low and not increase taxes. how dare anyone else keep us to the promises that got us ele elected. that the moment these people are are primed. they are going to be reaganites. the moment that they are challenged. >> i can tell you this. not one drop of revenue should be put on the table until we have massive across the board spending reductions and entitlement reform. that is what is missing. the gop should stand up and say not one drop of revenue until you show me good faith with the spending reduction you all talk about except when it comes time to do something about it. and step b is that the small business community should say not one pens penny until i know you are not going to screw me. >> a quiz. well the answer is coming up next. it is the energy boom that is the brightest spot in our dull and amenemic economy. does the republican party have a front-runner for 2016 could be. don't forget. free market capitalism. we are about to prove it again in 2:00 when the kudlow report comes right back. [ male announ
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we need to have tax reform. we have to have the people who have done so well during this difficult time we have had with the economy. the richest of the rich will have to pay a little bit more to solve the financial problems we have in this country. [inaudible] >> right after the senate majority leader harry reid spoke, republican leaders held their own briefing and ways to find a deal and criticized leader reid's plan. this is 15 minutes. >> good afternoon, everyone. as we head into the fiscal cliff negotiations, my advice to the president would be -- seems like our friends on the other side are having difficulty turning off the campaign. we need to sit down and work this matter out. i think we have a clear sense and opportunity here at the end of the year to do something important for the country. we all know that the most critical steps to be taken are to save the entitlements, which are on an unsustainable path to bankruptcy. there's no better time to begin to fix that problem than right now. so i would hope
we need to have tax reform. we have to have the people who have done so well during this difficult time we have had with the economy. the richest of the rich will have to pay a little bit more to solve the financial problems we have in this country. [inaudible] >> right after the senate majority leader harry reid spoke, republican leaders held their own briefing and ways to find a deal and criticized leader reid's plan. this is 15 minutes. >> good afternoon, everyone. as we head...
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cuts to 98% of tax players -- payers and should not hold those tax cuts hostage to an insistence that millionaires and billionaire the top 2% of america's taxpayers have to have a tax cut to. over the past couple of years, that segment of the american populous has done very well at a time when the middle class has been squeezed. i don't see a contradiction here. i see, you know, distinct challenges that are related and the president is very committed to the proposition that we can deal with these challenges if we come together in a -- and adopt a balanced approach. >> quick followup on that, every signal we've goten from the hill, including out here on the driveway after the last meeting with the president and also from you just said, essentially the fiscal cliff and a longer term package on tet and tax reform are combined. they're going to happen at once. when durbin says we have to deal with the fiscal cliff but not entitlements, doesn't the president have to win over members of his party and say, call it what you want, we're doing this and they are on the teable. >> it's hard for m
cuts to 98% of tax players -- payers and should not hold those tax cuts hostage to an insistence that millionaires and billionaire the top 2% of america's taxpayers have to have a tax cut to. over the past couple of years, that segment of the american populous has done very well at a time when the middle class has been squeezed. i don't see a contradiction here. i see, you know, distinct challenges that are related and the president is very committed to the proposition that we can deal with...
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and regulation the first forty million of excise taxes under this under the amendment will actually go to a public school systems fund so people need to think about things like this as well whereas a lot of this money right now or all of this money is essentially going to drug gangs and cartels sixty thousand people were killed in mexico in the last six years based on drug violence this money is not going to their coffers any more it's going to be going to potentially public schools so i think that's a great thing we'll see what the feds decide to do on this eric holder has been in the past very critical of similar amendments and initiatives so we'll see if they come in crackdown but the people of colorado spoken and will be interesting to see if if we implement if we can implement it without a hitch. i don't think we're much time to get into this but i we did get a touch on it it's interesting that the banks apparently don't know what to do if they're allowed to allow marijuana growers or businesses to bank with them because they could be violating federal regulations about money l
and regulation the first forty million of excise taxes under this under the amendment will actually go to a public school systems fund so people need to think about things like this as well whereas a lot of this money right now or all of this money is essentially going to drug gangs and cartels sixty thousand people were killed in mexico in the last six years based on drug violence this money is not going to their coffers any more it's going to be going to potentially public schools so i think...
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they'll also be gone with the middle-class tax cuts. two years ago the republicans tried to hold the president hostage and said listen, if you don't give us the bush high-end tax cuts we're not giving you the middle-class tax cuts. the president ju jitsued that into a second stimulus. the president this time around has a little advantage. he can let all tax cuts expire on december 31st which is what democrats are advocating, first week in januariry when the congress comes back in, he can say, guys, we have 98% of the public i want to give tax cuts to right now, we can keep arguing about the top 2 but do this right now for the 98%. how come you're not with me on this? that's i think is a card for him to play heavy and gives him an advantage over the spending cuts and debt ceiling issues that will come up. >> justin, let's talk a little bit about the effects of a tax cut for high-income earners on the economy. there is this supposition, in fact i would call it bedrock republican philosophy economically speaking if you cut rates for top ea
they'll also be gone with the middle-class tax cuts. two years ago the republicans tried to hold the president hostage and said listen, if you don't give us the bush high-end tax cuts we're not giving you the middle-class tax cuts. the president ju jitsued that into a second stimulus. the president this time around has a little advantage. he can let all tax cuts expire on december 31st which is what democrats are advocating, first week in januariry when the congress comes back in, he can say,...
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by simply letting it expire, and then any tax changed to reduce taxes will be a tax cut. they will be glad to sign. all other superrich backers who are now going to face 55% estate tax on anything over $1 billion will be coming in, screaming over their shoulders, signed a got dam thing. and you know, we're not going to have $200 billion spending if after january 1 we signed a new tax bill the second or third. so the fact that obama's administration is willing to make it sound like he's averting a catastrophe over the full 2013 is an insult to people who actually understand what's going on. i hope that -- >> host: do you think, your call on the democratic line. do you think the president is not holding firm on democratic beliefs? >> caller: i really don't know what he's doing, but i just got yesterday it was, maybe the day before, ed rendell supposedly a liberal type of democrat is on one of these teams trying to figure out how to cut entitlements. this is a very simple equation. we have about $800 billion more than is necessary spending on health between the private and p
by simply letting it expire, and then any tax changed to reduce taxes will be a tax cut. they will be glad to sign. all other superrich backers who are now going to face 55% estate tax on anything over $1 billion will be coming in, screaming over their shoulders, signed a got dam thing. and you know, we're not going to have $200 billion spending if after january 1 we signed a new tax bill the second or third. so the fact that obama's administration is willing to make it sound like he's averting...
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everyone here agrees with very limited exception that we should extend tax rates, keep the tax rates the same for about 98% of the american people. there's broad agreement on that. now, some on the other side don't want to -- don't have to have a -- a conclusion to that because they -- they want to have a debate about what happens to the wealthiest among us, the very top income earners, roughly about 2% of income earners. but, look, we -- we have agreement on the other 98%. so what i would say is whatever it takes to give meaning or integrity to the vote we had here in the senate to -- to get an agreement here but also to encourage the house to vote to say, let's give middle-income families the certainty they deserve. let's just say that we're going to agree, democrats and republicans, that 98% of taxpayers across the country are going to have their tax rates continued. then we can have a big debate after that about what happens to the wealthiest among us. i think it makes sense, at a time of high deficits and a -- and a debt problem that -- that will confront us for years, that we h
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what is it that is true about virtual rules tax the activity itself is an accountability mechanism. me know what level of activity they had. this is basically on a real- time basis. when the government gets around to that, it will be a very tight box. the sector has the opportunity now to say we know what we can do to show you the kind of outcomes we can produce. we collect that data. most providers are in a position to start to do that as well. the sector is not proactively setting the framework for how this discussion is going to take place. there is going to be another bad actor who is going to mess up. there is going to be a reaction. it is going to be painful for a lot of other people because the sector did not take the step. i am a person who comes from the background of trying to leverage a for-profit company to be able to access capital. i still believe this is an important role for the for- profit to play. as long as we have this conversation about why as opposed to how we actually take the context as it is an frame in a way that can allow for great companies to persist bei
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or raise their tax rates? today president obama meets with small business leaders continuing his push for higher taxes for the wealthy. a new white house economic report warns if tax breaks go away, the average middle-class family will owe uncle sam another $2,200 next year. >> it seems to be the thing that we can all agree on, that middle-class families should see an extension of these tax cuts. >> reporter: some prominent republicans who have been dead set against raising taxes on anyone now hint they may consider other options. >> we've been open to revenue by closing loopholes as long as it's tied to spending cuts and pro-growth tax reform that brudens the base and lowers rates. >> you don't raise rates, you just cap the amount of itemized deductions that taxpayers -- it hits the wealthy. >> reporter: the bottom line, republicans say americans borrowing too much money trying to keep medicare and social security afloat. lawmakers with the fix-the-debt coalition meet here tomorrow. >> there's going to come a
or raise their tax rates? today president obama meets with small business leaders continuing his push for higher taxes for the wealthy. a new white house economic report warns if tax breaks go away, the average middle-class family will owe uncle sam another $2,200 next year. >> it seems to be the thing that we can all agree on, that middle-class families should see an extension of these tax cuts. >> reporter: some prominent republicans who have been dead set against raising taxes on...
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that wasn't his tax policy. you can have financial problems from printing too much money and inflation under carter, not just high tax rates but inflation. if buffet goes back and looks at how the kennedy years did after the marginal tax rate cuts and the reagan years, he'd understand that economic growth -- you know, he says he made a lot of money selling bonds. the question is how many money the people who invested in those bonds made, we need economic growth and not higher taxes. if the government taking a dollar aaway, that dollar is not available to be invested. the return on that dollar is zero. for buffet to not understand if you take money out of the economy it's gone is a little bit odd. he's willing to write it. if he wants to write a check, he should write a check and shut up about what everyone else should do. >> the richest guy in america things he should make more taxes. >> then do so. >> fwri in policies that make all people do that. grover as always combative fun and good to talk with you. a man
that wasn't his tax policy. you can have financial problems from printing too much money and inflation under carter, not just high tax rates but inflation. if buffet goes back and looks at how the kennedy years did after the marginal tax rate cuts and the reagan years, he'd understand that economic growth -- you know, he says he made a lot of money selling bonds. the question is how many money the people who invested in those bonds made, we need economic growth and not higher taxes. if the...
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they talk about taxes on national television. i know pornography when i see it. norquist made it very clear that any republican who signed the pledge, that's pretty much every republican in congress, who now balks, is someone whose career is over. to me, that meant the defectors are far and few between. as a moderate leadership cannot deliver those pledged to the norquist hardline. norquist who seems to welcome a bust on the wall of shame, used to beg for it, is more powerful than speaker john boehner. norquist is more powerful than boehner. it feels as if the air went out of the compromise zeppelin. hey, like the graph zeppelin, like, lakehurst. retail, now we're hearing that there wasn't as much follow-through to the initial sales from thursday night. i think it's nonsense, but macy's and costco, vf, coach and ralph lauren were tagged with huge losses today. i believe the holiday sales are flat-out strong. amazing numbers from apple, like a rocket since it hit the 505 level last week. terrific ipad mini sales. wasn't that a pro
they talk about taxes on national television. i know pornography when i see it. norquist made it very clear that any republican who signed the pledge, that's pretty much every republican in congress, who now balks, is someone whose career is over. to me, that meant the defectors are far and few between. as a moderate leadership cannot deliver those pledged to the norquist hardline. norquist who seems to welcome a bust on the wall of shame, used to beg for it, is more powerful than speaker john...
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here in texas if the federal court says you can deduct a expense and tax returns but in new york face a that you can the answer has to be the same. we're the only court to make it the same. matter how picayune bordeaux the question that is the case we take. is not our job to correct errors. we get 9,000 petitions per year we don't look it each one to determine if it is right or wrong but to provide uniformity. where it active congress has been declared unconstitutional we will often take that. congress should hear it from us. not always but it is not the amount of money but schoolchildren come by and that is horribly wrong. should you take it? no. the less likely other courts will follow and less need for us to fix it. dealing with constitutionality and backs of congress and uniformity of loss. >> the next question is in two parts the executive and legislative branches are political and public but the support is not a do talk about how would this nonpolitical is the public institution in any respect with televised arguments it is a less transparent political institution why do see tha
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from it it's sold there are age limits but what has been the result is that for every dollar in taxes the united states receives from legal alcohol or tobacco it costs us ten dollars in social costs so we don't need to legalize something to make it to control it we can actually keep it illegal so that we don't have big industry promoting it to kids but at the same time we also don't need to throw everybody in jail for small amounts of use so i don't live in this world where it's black or white you know we go to jail or it's legal we can do better than that ok pete if i go back to you i mean we haven't said which is not a war against our own people but the level of incarceration the united states is extraordinary that is a war on a population that at least in one sense well i would again i think we can use words in lots of ways i think. the problem is that you have in latin america today a norm mis level of violence and killing that people believe is related to the drug war whether it is or not whether kevin is right that legalizing marijuana in a few states is not going to have any ef
from it it's sold there are age limits but what has been the result is that for every dollar in taxes the united states receives from legal alcohol or tobacco it costs us ten dollars in social costs so we don't need to legalize something to make it to control it we can actually keep it illegal so that we don't have big industry promoting it to kids but at the same time we also don't need to throw everybody in jail for small amounts of use so i don't live in this world where it's black or white...
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we have a very difficult bankruptcy tax case. nobody can say, well, you're a liberal if you want to allow the deduction by the estates which are conservative if you require the debtor, and just does not make sense. on ones more access l to the public regimely, it's hard to pick categories. there was a case involving a question of whether or not certain discrimination laws should be applied to religious institutions so you could challenge the hiring or firing of a minister on the grounds it was discriminatory. what's the liberal position in that? the view you should extend crimination laws or protect the free exercise of the religion to the greatest extent possible? we look at the cases and resolve them to our best view of the law, not in terms of a particular liberal or conservative political agenda. there's ways of characterizes this that makes sense in terms of the work we do. some of the colleagues refer to it here strictly to the text of the stay chute. others of the colleagues like to look expansively to what we call the leg
we have a very difficult bankruptcy tax case. nobody can say, well, you're a liberal if you want to allow the deduction by the estates which are conservative if you require the debtor, and just does not make sense. on ones more access l to the public regimely, it's hard to pick categories. there was a case involving a question of whether or not certain discrimination laws should be applied to religious institutions so you could challenge the hiring or firing of a minister on the grounds it was...